John O'Brien and Catherine Noonan; and Mary Egan PDF Print E-mail
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Saturday, 06 October 2012 12:12

John O'Brien (married twice) (1850’s – 1930’s)
1 - Catherine Noonan (1880-1882);
2 - Mary Egan



John’s Individual Facts

  • Father:    William O'Brien (I)
  • Mother:    Mary Conway
  • Birth:    10 04 1853 in Abington, Limerick, Ireland; Rath Townland
  • Emigration:    1872 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
  • Death:    30 04 1933 in Victoria, Australia; Murrumbeena
  • Burial:    05 1933; Brighton Gen Cem, Vic
  • Education:    Literate
  • Occupation:    Farmer
  • Religion:    RC

 



Marriage (1) to Catherine Helena Noonan: 1880 in Victoria, Australia

Catherine’s Individual Facts

  • Father:    Thomas Francis Noonan
  • Mother:    Catherine Frances O'Brien
  • Birth:    1856 in Wallan Wallan, VIC
  • Death:    31 03 1882 in Tarrawingee, Victoria, Australia


Notes for Catherine Helena Noonan:


Catherine's family changed their name from Nunan to Noonan around 1870. Catherine's mother was named Catherine nee O'Brien being the daughter of a Laurence and Mary (nee Merrick) O'Brien from Tipperary, Ire. Catherine's sister Bridget married a Daniel Kennedy, their son Joseph later married into the Tom and Mary (nee English) family, Catherine husband's brother.  There is some evidence that Laurence may have been a cousin of John. There are many connections between the Noonan and O’Brien’s; it is possible that there are further relationships between these groups. Catherine's family changed their name from Nunan to Noonan around 1870. Catherine's mother was named Catherine nee O'Brien being the daughter of a Laurence and Mary (nee Merrick) O'Brien from Tipperary, Ire. Catherine's sister Bridget married a Daniel Kennedy, their son Joseph later married into the Tom and Mary (nee English) family, Catherine husband's brother.

There is some evidence that Laurence may have been a cousin of John. There are many connections between the Noonan and O’Brien’s; it is possible that there are further relationships between these groups.


Children of John and Catherine:

  1. Mary Jane Catherine O'Brien- (John-1)[3] was born in 06 1881 in Katamatite, Victoria, Australia [3]. She died on 13 09 1950 in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. She married John Patrick Egan in 1901 in Victoria, Australia, son of John Egan and Johanna Hickey. He was born on 26 12 1875 in Victoria, Australia (Wahring, Goulburn Shire). He died on 24 01 1903.

 


Marriage (2) to Mary Egan: 16 09 1884 in Wangaratta, Victoria, Australia

Mary's Individual Facts:

  • Birth: 19 03 1864 in Kilmore, Victoria, Australia
  • Death: 03 03 1934 in Murrumbeena, Victoria, Australia; Murrumbeena
  • Occupation: Home Duties
  • Burial: Brighton Gen Cem, Vic
  • Education: Literate
  • Religion: RC

Notes for Mary Egan:


Mary's younger brother, John, later married her step daughter, Mary. The Egan family is also related to the Con O'Brien family.
Mary was the second child of a family of five girls and one boy, the Egan's, that lived at Burramine, about eight miles from Boosey. Mary's family were both from Tipperary and had been living in Victoria since the earlier in the 1850's.

The links between the Egan's and the O'Brien's were to strengthen in the ensuring years with a number of inter family marriages. This would also be widened to include the Crowley family as well.

There were a lot of Mary's in the family and nick-names were often used to differentiate between them. So Mary the second wife of John was called the Mater, while Mary Hogan the wife of Con O'Brien was referred to as Mary Con, and young Mary, John's daughter through his first marriage was called Mary Jane. The Mater's older sister, Johanna, always called Hanna, had married James Crowley in 1882, while Mater's younger sister Catherine later married James's younger brother Daniel. Thus two sisters married two brothers, making the Egan and Crowley families very close with lesser connection to the O'Brien. However, the relationship between the O'Brien's and Crowley's was not to end there, as John's brother Con family would marry into the Crowley's.

Finally, Mary Jane would later marry her step-mothers youngest brother John Egan. Making for an unusually close connection.


Children of John O'Brien and Mary Egan are:

  1. William O'Brien, B: 1885 in Cobram, Victoria, Australia, D: 1886 in Yarrawonga, Victoria, Australia; Died at 9 month old, reason unknown
  2. Johanna O'Brien, B: 1886 in Cobram, Victoria, Australia, D: 22 11 1969 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, M: Thomas Augustus Flynn, 1917 in Katamatite, Victoria, Australia.
    • Johanna was always called "Sis" being the eldest she always looked after the smaller children. Tom and Johanna never had any family, but did look after Michael and Brian Walsh after the early death of their mother, Kit. Johanna and Tom did have a property in the Katamatite region.
  3. John O'Brien, B: 15 01 1888 in Boosey South, Victoria, Australia, D: 15 05 1960 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, M: Elizabeth Ann Marchesi, 1916.
  4. Thomas O'Brien, B: 1889 in Cobram, Victoria, Australia, D: 1966 in Victoria, Australia, M: Margaret(Topsy) Breen, 1928 in Cobram, Victoria, Australia.
  5. Catherine (Kit) O'Brien, B: 1891 in Cobram, Victoria, Australia; "Hyslope", D: 13 04 1939 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, M: Michael David Walsh, 16 10 1926 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia; St Anthony's, Glenhuntley.
  6. Patrick O'Brien, B: 21 04 1894 in Cobram, Victoria, Australia; "Hyslope", D: 14 05 1954 in Victoria, Australia, M: Kathleen Muriel Jago, 11 07 1934 in Mansfied, Victoria, Australia; Catholic Church.
  7. William Edward O'Brien, B: 23 03 1896 in Cobram, Victoria, Australia, D: 13 11 1982 in Prahran, Victoria, Australia, M: Ellen Gladys Daley, 18 06 1918.
  8. Cornelius (Con) Adrian O'Brien, B: 1899 in Cobram, Victoria, Australia; "Hyslope"[2], D: 1979 in Fitzroy, Victoria, Australia[2], M: Florence (Freda) May Dugdale, 1936; Con and Fredda had no family
  9. Owen O'Brien, B: 01 06 1901 in Cobram, Victoria, Australia; "Hyslope", D: 11 04 1975 in Victoria, Australia; Rosanna,, M: Daphne Syble Morris, 29 09 1924 in Cohuna, Victoria, Australia.
  10. Peter O'Brien, B: 1903 in Cobram, Victoria, Australia; "Hyslope", D: 1963 in Victoria, Australia, M: Doris Barnes, 1945; Peter and Doris had no family
  11. Bridget (Darle) O'Brien, B: 02 04 1905 in Cobram, Victoria, Australia; "Hyslope", D: 26 06 1993 in Caulfield, Victoria, Australia; Bridget, known as Dale, never married. She worked in the taxation office for many years and was also a great worker for the Catholic Church.

 



General stories about the John O’Brien family

John arrived in Melbourne on the 21st December 1872 on board the "GREAT BRITAIN" accompanied by his brother Cornelius. The ship had departed from London.
John O'Brien was born on 10 Apr 1853 at Rath. John with his brother, Con, left Rath following the death of their father. They arrived in Melbourne the 21 December 1872 on-board the "Great Britain".

They went directly to the northern Victorian district of Cobram and initially stayed and worked on the farm of their brother Thomas, who had arrived a few years earlier. They found to their surprise a comfortable cottage that had been built by Tom where he and his wife, Mary (nee English) and their daughter Mary, (known as Doll) were living.

John later selected 320 acres of land about one mile from his brother's property in an area called "Boosey", a short distance from Cobram. He continued to work for his brother, Tom, who in turn lent John horses and a plough to enable John to plant his crops and clear the land.

Everything went well in those early years although the work of clearing and fencing was very hard. The soil was goods and droughts were unknown. In 1880 John married a girl from Violet Town, Catherine (Kate) Noonan. Strangely enough Catherine smother was also an O'Brien from the Kilmore district in central Victoria. A year later their only child Mary was born; however when she was nine months old Kate passed away. Mary's grandmother cared for her in her home for the next three years.

In 1884 John married Mary Egan. Mary had also been born in Kilmore, Victoria in 1864, she was the second child of a family of five girls and one boy and they lived at Burramine, about eight miles from Boosey. John and Mary's marriage took place at St Patrick's, Wangaratta on September 16 1884. In 1888 John sold his property to his brother Con and bought 640 acres at Cobram East and called the place "Hyslope".

As things were very busy and with a growing family, John employed his niece, Mary Connell and her husband Leo Ruelle. This arrangement lasted many years and proved a benefit for both families. This Mary and her sister had arrived after their Uncles had settled down and became prosperous.

In later years John became very interested in cattle, he would attend the sales in Newmarket and buy young cattle in poor condition. With the good feed on "Hyslope", the cattle would be fit to sell to the local butcher in two or four months, so a good profit was made.

Later John got the idea to have his own butchery business at "Hyslope". He built a shop and slaughter yard. He also introduced pigs and sheep. This business prospered for many years. John expanded the property and added to the house to allow for his growing family. At different stages there were up to 15 persons living on "Hyslope".

In the early 1900's, John was keen on speculation and bought three sites in the town of Cobram. He visited Melbourne and bought three small shops and had then transported to Cobram by rail. One became a Wine Shop, another a small goods shop and the third a hairdressers.

One of the unusual connections within the family was Mary, John’s daughter from his first marriage, married John Egan, the youngest brother of her Step-Mother. Therefore Mary became her Fathers Sister in Law. Mary and John Egan had one child, John. Unfortunately within two years Mary was widowed and returned with her small son to "Hyslope".

Mary went to Melbourne and started study at the Fairfield hospital to become a nurse. She also undertook general training in Perth. She completed her final training at the Maternity hospital in Sydney. Mary lived the rest of her life in Sydneyand Canberra.

In the early 1920's John sold "Hyslope" and moved to Melbourne. He and Mary stayed until their deaths in the late 1930's.

 

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